No more shadow boxing?relevant afrikan debates now!

[Realistik Dreamer]

Up to the point of European contact, African states continued to flourish. When they (European navigators) reached the Bay of Guinea and alighted at Vaida, the captains were astonished to find well-planned streets bordered for several leagues by two rows of trees; for days they traversed a countryside covered by magnificent fields, inhabited by men in colorful attire that they had woven themselves!

More to the south, in the Kingdom of the Congo, a teeming crowd clad in silk and velvet, large States, well ordered down to the smallest detail, powerful rulers, prosperous industries. Civilized to the marrow of their bones...This flowering the European conquistadors destroyed as they advanced.

]Leo Frobenius, German ethnologist

In fact, quite a few historians have postulated that African civilization follows along a continuous path. ...there was no interruption of African history. It is evident that, if starting from Nubia and Egypt, we had followed a continental geographical direction, such as Nubia-Gulf of Benin, Nubia-Congo, Nubia-Mozambique, the course of African history would still have appeared uninterruptied.

This is the perspective in which the African past should be viewed.

Cheikh Anta Diop, African scholar

[Realistik Dreamer]

We can not wait for the day when we Africans will have truly homegrown/relevant debates:

a) Not about white allah & jesus but a BLACK MORALITY & SPIRITUALITY that has been from time immemorial.Thus white deities become mere historic/intellectual curiosities.

b) about our true magnificent history. Hidden, suppressed and yet so revealed if one only looked. To make this history coherent, uplifting to detribalize our minds and unify black peoples at home & abroad.

c) How can we harness our knowledge of nature. Observation to practice to Hypothesis/Theory and back to practice i.e application. To grow nutritious food-rediscover traditional foods,to build water purification systems, roads, hospitals, industries, transport vehicles.....

d) To reconstruct, modify, our inherent superior culture based on effortless (that has been contemptously dismissed as inferiority complex!)good manners, Truth Justice & RighteousnessTo this time Honour our women as equal partners in the struggle. No more macho meathead BS.

e)To tell our children the truth of how the world works. How BLACK PEOPLE came to be the donkeys of the world. That this is not a natural preordained cataclysm to be accepted by trying to just pray out of it-to non-existent blond, blue-eyed jesus & arab/yellow/white allah!

f) To ask ourselves/debate the logic of economics as taught to us by the rotten maggot-filled white sytem. A "science" that masquerades the notion of incremental development for Africa & Asia (Developmental economics), comparative advantage (coffee, tea, flowers, sex tourism as Africa's produce while we must buy heavy expensive machinery from whitey)

While everyone knows that their wealth is based on slavery, plunder, murder & theft (Adam Smith, Ricardo, Keynes, Milton etc never developed curves, laws & theories on this fact.)

No wonder our adopted curves always come out deficit like to make I and I begger!

g) To recognize clearly, presently and truthfully that NO WHITE WO/MAN under the nuclear combustion event we call the sun will ever wish us equality with them. No!

You check it out-their charitable feelings, their most "liberal" will not condone it. These hypocrites only behave kind-like to salve their consciense-to make them feel good & righteous-superior like helping you up(to a certain level)

You mention President (hopefully )Obama? Let him chuck out the Patriot Act and organize a MARSHALL PLAN for Black Africa.

That may just impress I and I.

Tokens never helped any nation develop.

Why are we still so seduced by white death, well-woven lies, stolen wealth?

Could it be that we secretly admire them, are envious of them and wish the same power for ourselves as individuals (the myth of cold rational economic man)

This is the thing that did jezebel in!

[PrivatePractice]

Lion where are you???
I think I smell you around mashada, and I'm going to sniff out your other handle

[Kip's bro]

Am totaly with u Mr.RD in ur quest to enlighten and awaken our people from whiteys spell- expose this slimy creatures true nature. hypocrisy, hatred, lies...man smtyms its amazing y black people still pander to mzungu when all the evidence is screaming at us- slavery, jim crows wtvr, colonial plunder, oppression and the latest exploitative capitalistic experiment a.k.a globalisation....god, am so mad 2day! when will all this end . . .?

[Muhammad_4]

Originally Posted by Realistic Dreamer

[/B]To this time Honour our women as equal partners in the struggle. No more macho meathead BS.

How can you honour Black women, while your Talmud tells you that:
Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.Abodah Zarah 36b.

Originally Posted by Realistic Dreamer

To tell our children the truth of how the world works.

Is this is what you are going to tell us;?:
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals".
No, thank you.

Originally Posted by Realistic Dreamer

How BLACK PEOPLE came to be the donkeys of the world.

Simply,"A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work".Sanhedrin 57a

Originally Posted by Realistic Dreamer

To ask ourselves/debate the logic of economics as taught to us by the rotten maggot-filled white sytem. A "science" that masquerades the notion of incremental development for Africa & Asia (Developmental economics), comparative advantage (coffee, tea, flowers, sex tourism as Africa's produce while we must buy heavy expensive machinery from whitey)

"All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general." - Schulchan Aruch. Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

Originally Posted by Realistic Dreamer

While everyone knows that their wealth is based on slavery, plunder, murder & theft (Adam Smith, Ricardo, Keynes, Milton etc never developed curves, laws & theories on this fact.)

The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."Baba Kamma 37b

[Realistik Dreamer]

Originally Posted by kip's bro

am totaly with u mr.rd in ur quest to enlighten and awaken our people from whiteys spell- expose this slimy creatures true nature. Hypocrisy, hatred, lies...man smtyms its amazing y black people still pander to mzungu when all the evidence is screaming at us- slavery, jim crows wtvr, colonial plunder, oppression and the latest exploitative capitalistic experiment a.k.a globalisation....god, am so mad 2day! when will all this end . . .?

asante sana bro kip! you are too kind!

indeed we must face reality. It is more dignified to face reality than to pretend to believe in fantasies due to ill-defined fears.

this is our life Afrikans.

dont ask for permission and/or expect approval, validation from our oppressors.

"mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka", wahenga walisema. Kweli walikuwa na hekima ya ajabu hawa wazee wa kale.


and hey....never fear. It will end. They are crumbling right in front of us daily from weird mental angst, diseases, sexual confusions, drugs and global financial crises (its not over-it has just begun).

clean up our act and run from them. Get black to Afrika Spiritually & scientifically

we must rebuild.

[Realistik Dreamer]

Originally Posted by Muhammad_4

How can you honour Black women, while your Talmud tells you that:
Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.Abodah Zarah 36b.Is this is what you are going to tell us;?:
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals".
No, thank you.Simply,"A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work".Sanhedrin 57a"All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general." - Schulchan Aruch. Choszen Hamiszpat 348.The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."Baba Kamma 37b

You moronic idiot-clot

[Muhammad_4]

Originally Posted by Realistik Dreamer

You moronic idiot-clot

I told you that call me whatever you wish!
Do I get the answer now?

[kigango123]

The gigantic abrahamic religions coupled with the western colonialism and asian trade have simply pummeled and crushed what was of african life . The religions, life values, beliefs, riches and ethic were all eroded by the white men as they pillaged,conned, proselytized to their goals. Even today, we still see the impact of western slavery,colonialism and neocolonialism in economic,cultural and social circles. Also we rarely mention the effect of arabian culture. Arabian slavery was almost twice the amount of western slavery and went on for much longer, the arabs effectively forced their religion onto Africa with war and other means starting in the battle of babylon almost 14 centuries ago. Their trading effectively monopolized the african economy almost since the inception of money.

I would like to have known how african culture would have turned out if it was free to evolve on its own.

[Muhammad_4]

Originally Posted by kigango123

the arabs effectively forced their religion onto Africa with war and other means starting in the battle of babylon almost 14 centuries ago. Their trading effectively monopolized the african economy almost since the inception of money.

I would like to have known how african culture would have turned out if it was free to evolve on its own.

Why dont you bring the proof?
I would like to know how would Jews claim that Falasha people (Africans) are Jews? and what the type of jobs and treatment are getting now in "Israel"?