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Old 1st March 2010, 02:20 PM
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Just as we see in this current case where scientists worked not merely to suppress data but also suppress viewpoints, trying to manipulate the peer review process to exclude dissenters and refusing to debate them in order to deprive them of credibility, so too in marco-evolution.

It is my hope that when people see how reputable scientists tried to buffalo the entire world, hiding behind consensus, and ridiculing those who think other wise regarding global warming that they will spot the same patterns of behavior regarding macro evolution and approach it with more skepticism

When i think of how many times atheists have seen those opposed to their ideologies as being intellectually inferior ,primitive, lacking reason and logic cold hard evidence.Now I dont care how many phd's some atheists have. You have to be out of touch with reality to think that the average IQ can't put one and one together and it shows the shallow position here, that they would publicly say this is a solution, and not realize that it negates the very cause that they have been trying to force feed down your throat.



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Old 1st March 2010, 03:46 PM
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So, Let me see a group of rogue scientists have totally discredited the whole scientific community according to Jasakwa. According to your argument; science should be discarded and replaced with the bible because God eventually will replenish the melting icecaps if you pray long enough. While at it why don’t we dismiss other occupations that have been involved in fraudulent ways or malpractice like the accountants for failure to reign on unscrupulous accountants? Your argument is misleading, contradicting and in the very least misguided to even contemplate that the methodology used to collect data in science is flawed. What I see is an ambitious scientist unprofessionally manipulating data.Other areas scientist that have manipulated data with fatal repercussions.

1998 –Lockheed Martin launched a satellite with miscalculated units sending the Obiter on a suicide mission into Martian atmosphere. Should the NASA space program be scraped for such an error?

2006- Hwang Woo-suk wa indicted for violations linked to fake stem research with goes against scientific professional ethics. Although his data was fabricated, this did not poke a hole on the credibility of stem cell research and its capabilities.

This is the beauty of science; it is subjected to peer review for independent scrutiny from other scientific experts and results made public. With Global warming the verdict is yet to be out. With so much information and research and scientist saying conflicting things it can be hard to determine who is telling the truth. So for you to dismiss global warming on the account of one mischievous scientist and not analyzing other plausible research claims show some sort of bias. As we speak Mt Kilimanjaro and Mt Kenya icecaps are melting and the glaciers continue to retreat in the arctic. It is up to you to decide which among the groups present a compelling case and what actions to take to the response.

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Jasakwa sometimes it is important to data mine. Read soberly and rationally. Read excerpts like this one I have quoted for you.

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The central lesson of Climategate is not that climate science is corrupt. The leaked e-mails do nothing to disprove the scientific consensus on global warming. Instead, the controversy highlights that in a world of blogs, cable news and talk radio, scientists are poorly equipped to communicate their knowledge and, especially, to respond when science comes under attack.
Now, that was just from the link you wanted us to ignore.
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@Wajibu: well said. The poster has been on a mission to discredit evolution, and he does this by seizing on any errors, ommisions or commissions of any scientist and extrapolating this to all other science.

By his standards, nothing on earth is true, because you will find unscrupulous, inaccurate or just misguided people everywhere. I wonder what he has to say about the believers who recently stated that their members would rise from the dead and they didn't...didn't this then discredit the whole of christianity?
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You seam to have an issue with atheists, your rant is incoherent, are discusing about global warming or atheists beliefs?
To discern the statements above, the second link is run by Scott Thong a neo-con mouth piece and the first ran by liberal mouth piece, why dont you post a link with facts and statistics from a researcher(s). Then register your rant.
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