Witchcraft blamed as man grows genital organ on face

[jasakwa]

I have always challenged atheists and agnostics who claim that spirits do not exist to just swallow their pride and go on a field research in kisii and kilifi to collect and collate data on witness report and evidence of witchcraft.

IN a bizarre incident, a Bulawayo man allegedly developed a female genital organ on the right side of his face stretching up to the chest in what is suspected to be a case of witchcraft

Witchcraft blamed as man grows genital organ on face

[jogoo wa shamba]

Jasakwa...you are a very interesting fella. This is what the end of the story said..."A medical doctor in Bulawayo, Dr Jimmy Gazi, dismissed the idea that the man could have developed private parts on his face, saying layman can mistake folds which grow on a swelling as a woman’s private parts.

“We had a similar case some years of a man who had folds on a swelling in the face and upon examining it, we discovered that it was just some folds that had developed on a cancerous tumour,” said Gazi"

But now, Jasakwa, since you know much of this kind of stuff, tell us which part of the female sex organs was it? Vulva, clitoris, vagina, cervix, uterus, fallopian tubes or ovaries?

[jasakwa]

Originally Posted by jogoo wa shamba

Jasakwa...you are a very interesting fella. This is what the end of the story said..."A medical doctor in Bulawayo, Dr Jimmy Gazi, dismissed the idea that the man could have developed private parts on his face, saying layman can mistake folds which grow on a swelling as a woman’s private parts.

“We had a similar case some years of a man who had folds on a swelling in the face and upon examining it, we discovered that it was just some folds that had developed on a cancerous tumour,” said Gazi"

But now, Jasakwa, since you know much of this kind of stuff, tell us which part of the female sex organs was it? Vulva, clitoris, vagina, cervix, uterus, fallopian tubes or ovaries?

Jogoo are you implying that only the doc knows how a female organ looks like and not the thousands of villagers who included men and women.

Isn't this the usuall denial by a group of skeptics that deny science a chance to investigate the existence of spirits?

[jogoo wa shamba]

Originally Posted by jasakwa

Jogoo are you implying that only the doc knows how a female organ looks like and not the thousands of villagers who included men and women.

Isn't this the usuall denial by a group of skeptics that deny science a chance to investigate the existence of spirits?

Of course not, Jasakwa. I believe that many villagers know how the female organs appear...as well as they can know from casual examination, usually in the dark...do you know many village couples have sex in the dark without too many preliminaries? Anything pinkish with hair around it would resemble the female external genitalia to them.

When it comes to the question of growths and disease, I will respect a docs opinion any time. Not a villager's.

About science investigating, should we not then listen to professionals instead of villagers? I will remain sceptical to unlearned views versus professional views.

[fiery_preacher]

Modern science has nothing to say about spirits and considers the subject non-relevant. That should not be the case,because science is about exploring the unusual.Science need to have a developed an expanded model of universal connectiveness that includes spirit in a scientific framework. The multi-level physical universe logic has the potential to allow scientists to answer a number of questions that have eluded science for many years.

[jogoo wa shamba]

Originally Posted by fiery_preacher

Modern science has nothing to say about spirits and considers the subject non-relevant. That should not be the case,because science is about exploring the unusual.Science need to have a developed an expanded model of universal connectiveness that includes spirit in a scientific framework. The multi-level physical universe logic has the potential to allow scientists to answer a number of questions that have eluded science for many years.

Science usually deals with physical forces that can be measured and observed. Spirits, on the other hand, are non physical, and are most likely a product of the mind. Science has not yet developed ways of analysing such things. How would you suggest scientists go about exploring them?

[free flow]

For a moment i thought you were a jedi master that was serious slashing and by the way is this discussion about genitalia or spirits?
If its genitalia then it could be a simple case of mutation case closed and shut.
If its spirits then i have never seen one i don't discount their existence nor confirm. But i am very curious how they only afflict people in the developing nations

[Devine]

Originally Posted by jogoo wa shamba

usually in the dark...do you know many village couples have sex in the dark without too many preliminaries?

Spoken with authority ama it's just heresay

Originally Posted by fiery_preacher

Modern science has nothing to say about spirits and considers the subject non-relevant. That should not be the case,because science is about exploring the unusual.Science need to have a developed an expanded model of universal connectiveness that includes spirit in a scientific framework. The multi-level physical universe logic has the potential to allow scientists to answer a number of questions that have eluded science for many years.

I resolutely concur! It's about time science relaxed a bit to allow the supernatural and unquantifiable.

[jogoo wa shamba]

Originally Posted by Devine

Spoken with authority ama it's just heresay



I resolutely concur! It's about time science relaxed a bit to allow the supernatural and unquantifiable.

Well, I know about my villagers. I am one...wa Shamba...

About science relaxing...how do you propose it should be done? Science deals with established laws and principles. For example, if the acceleration due to gravity is 10m/s, do you propose relaxing it to 5m/s? Explain please.

[jogoo wa shamba]

Originally Posted by free flow

For a moment i thought you were a jedi master that was serious slashing and by the way is this discussion about genitalia or spirits?
If its genitalia then it could be a simple case of mutation case closed and shut.
If its spirits then i have never seen one i don't discount their existence nor confirm. But i am very curious how they only afflict people in the developing nations

What's a jedi master, by the way?

Well, the story is about ULUNYOKA or witchcraft in zimbabwe...and I still don't believe we are debating this matter...are there people who seriously believe this?

First, the story is poorly researched...he interviewed a tout and a bus driver. When the doc treating the patient asked him to submit a list of questions for answers, he did not. However all the doctors say it is a cancerous tumor.

The ulcer might have superficially resembled the female external genitals...after all if the guy had a beard, you just need an ulcer in a particular shape to give this impression. But dripping fluid continously??? No genitalia does this...(am I correct @Devine?)..., while an ulcer might continously discharge.

At least the man was smart enough to go to hospital. If he was in the hands of the spiritualists on this forum, they would have taken him to a sorcerer for exorcism!